Today the Christian Ledger is interviewing Brother Levi Sandals. We have had serious differences with him in the past. But we want to give him a fair chance to explain. Jesus said to go first to your brother.
Ledger: Thank you for speaking with us. We thought it important to hear from you personally. Things have a way of being distorted when passed on from one mouth to another. We want to continue with things you said in our former interview.
Sandals: I am always happy to talk about Jesus! He is so important to me.
L: You said something about people wearing blinders when they read the Bible.
S: Yes. Paul spoke of this. “But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.” 2 Cor 3:14 (NKJV)
“But when we turn our lives back towards the Boss, the mask is taken off. The Boss is the Spirit of God, and wherever God’s Spirit is, there’s freedom. We’ve got our masks off and God’s brilliance is bouncing off our faces; it’s changing us – our features are evolving; we’re looking more and more attractive as God’s Spirit puts plastic surgeons out of work by the thousands. Only our Boss makes us truly beautiful.” 2 Cor 3:16-18 Lacey
I like the way Lacey worded Jesus and the Pharisees in John 5:39-40. “You got your degrees in the sacred books, PhD’s in books about the sacred books, and you’re convinced they’ll get you into heaven. But for all the points you score – you miss the Point: it’s all about ME! It’s jam-packed with huge stomping clues about ME. But you can’t admit it, ’cos then you’d have to ask ME for the limitless life you want.”
L: We note you are using the NKJV. What is your reasoning?
S: We fault the Catholics for Latin. But we have done the same with the ancient language of King James. The NKJV is a good balance of traditional language and accuracy. I use many translations and also languages in my study. But I mostly use the NKJV in the pulpit. And Paul did say: “he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions,” 1 Tim 6:4 (NKJV)
L: And who is Lacey? You quote him.
S: Lacey was British and had an interesting way of saying things. He was dying of cancer when he wrote “The Word On The Street.” This is a commentary on the Bible. He offers a unique insight at times into the original text.
L: Does that conflict with inerrancy?
S: Not at all. Those inspired writers used the languages spoken on the street in their day. Surely they wrote just what God wanted them to write. God speaks all languages and we read them to understand. Paul said: “There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me.” 1 Cor 14:10-11 (NLT)
We need a “poetic soul” to understand the Bible. Books like Revelation use figures familiar to the Jewish readers of the First Century. “
Babylon” was the Roman
Empire, but also the “world that is passing away” (1 John 2:15-17). I like the way the NLT words this. “For the world offers only a craving
for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our
achievements and possessions.”
Lacey uses this poetic soul. “I only pull you up and back into line ’cos I love you. So get serious. Turn your life back round to God. I’m waiting here outside your front door. I’m pressing the buzzer. If you hear my voice on your intercom and press the ‘Enter’ button, I’ll come in with a full-on takeaway and we’ll have a great meal together and put our world to rights.” Rev 3:19-20
Rich Little, an Australian, wrote of this. “In the months preceding the death of my dear friend, mentor and “American” mum, Barby Smith, she spoke from her heart to a well-known faculty member with whom she differed on many things. She said, “You know, when you’re dying, the things you once thought were most important are not as important anymore, and I’ve wasted a lot of time.” The vision of Christ her King was fixed in her eyes. May He be so in ours as we unite around a common love and service for Him for all who will come and for all to whom we go.”
L. On a different subject, some are saying science has driven a stake into the heart of the "god delusion." We watched a video of the science of Dr. Who. Science is amazing. Our grandson is learning to program welding robots. Do you consider this a Bible subject?
S. You must consider everything the Bible does say. Some “proof-text” the Bible and ignore many things. Or they do not think through the implications of the Bible. God created people in His own image. Anything that science finds is something which God already placed there. God has given us almost unlimited creativity. God has given us a mind that can leap ahead to a conclusion that has not followed a complete process of logical development.
L. How do you arrive at this? What is your reasoning?
Genesis 11. The NLT brings this
out. “But the Lord came down to look at the city and the tower the people
were building. “Look!” he said. “The people are united, and they all speak
the same language. After this, nothing they set out to do will be impossible
for them! Come,
let’s go down and confuse the people with different languages. Then they won’t
be able to understand each other.” Gen
11:5-7 (NLT) tower of Babel
I believe God gave all the variety of physical characteristics that divide us. But there is a default value which stabilizes humanity. Paul said: “From one man he created all the nations throughout the whole earth. He decided beforehand when they should rise and fall, and he determined their boundaries.” Acts 17:26 (NLT)
And Paul mentions this to the Corinthians. “For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.” 1 Cor 11:19 (NKJV)
L. Factions, you say. How do you understand this?
S. Paul the Apostle said to the Corinthians: “for you are still controlled by your sinful nature. You are jealous of one another and quarrel with each other. Doesn’t that prove you are controlled by your sinful nature? Aren’t you living like people of the world?” 1 Cor 3:3-4 (NLT) Some seek to justify their factitious actions as “Standing For The Old Paths.” Jesus warned about the “leaven of the Pharisees.” But we demonstrate by our actions our true love for God and for one another. 1 John 3:23-24.
We are actually workers on the same team. Paul said: “Each of us did the work the Lord gave us. I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow.” 1 Cor 3:5-6 (NLT)
L. This has certainly been interesting. Let’s get together again soon and continue our interview.