PAPER POPE – An Interview
Today the Christian Ledger is interviewing Brother Levi
Sandals. We have had serious differences
with him in the past. But we want to
give him a fair chance to explain. Jesus
said to go first to your brother.
Ledger: Thank you for
speaking with us. We thought it
important to hear from you personally.
Things have a way of being distorted when passed on from one mouth to
another.
Sandals: I certainly
have been misunderstood in some things I now deeply regret having done. It did cause me problems.
L: Did you do it?
What we heard, that is. We were
in Christian College at the time. We were all properly scandalized! And shocked!
S: Yes. To my regret
I did. In a fit of emotion I got carried
away. Perhaps you have done this
too.
L: You actually threw your Bible on the floor and said: “I
will not be bound by a paper pope.”
S: In my defense I
ask you to listen to what Jesus said.
“Beware the leaven of the Pharisees.”
That is what I had intended to do.
L: Then you do accept
the Bible?
S: I believe that
holy men of God wrote just exactly what God intended. My problem is with some who READ INTO IT
things that are not there. That is what
I intended to protest.
L: But you spoke of a
“paper pope.”
S: Paul wrote: “The
letter kills but the Spirit gives life.”
I believe Paul was speaking about the way in which some use the Bible.
L: But isn’t what Paul
said a contrast between Law and Gospel?
S: Listen to
Paul. “But their minds were blinded. For
until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old
Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.” 2 Cor 3:14 (NKJV) Again, Listen to Christ Himself. “You search the Scriptures, for in them you THINK
you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are
not willing to come to Me that you may have life.” John 5:39-40 (NKJV)
L: So you are saying
with Jesus: “Take heed how you hear.”
S: That’s what I had intended
to say. But you know preachers. Sometimes we get too involved in what we are
trying to communicate.
L: We remember when a
young preacher was trying to emphasize how Naaman had to dip seven times. “If Naaman had dipped only six and a half
times he would not have been saved.”
S: No, he would have
drowned. That is just my point
exactly. We use the laws of language
when we read the newspaper. We should
read the Bible using these same laws of language.
L: Alexander Campbell
said he tried to approach the Bible each day as if he had never seen it before.
S: Certainly this is
impossible. But we do want to let the
Bible speak for itself. That is, to use
the laws of language and context to deduce what the Bible is actually teaching.
S:
This is how Karl Barth describes the shift
towards Biblicism that took place in much of Protestantism after the
Reformation: The Bible was now grounded upon itself apart from the mystery of
Christ and the Holy Ghost. It became a "paper Pope," and unlike the
living Pope in Rome
it was wholly given up into the hands of its interpreters. It was no longer a
free and spiritual force, but an instrument of human power.” (CD I.2, p 525)
Here is where Barth finds the
great sin of Biblicism. Rather than submitting to the Word made flesh revealed
in the Bible (i.e. Jesus), we have all-to-often submitted simply to the book,
to the Bible. Which ultimately takes the authority away from Christ and places
it into the hands of the interpreter
of Scripture. And Peter the Apostle
said some had twisted the words of Paul the Apostle. [2 Peter 3:16.]
L: We hear you saying that some by their actions
seem to say: “We have the Bible – we have no need for Christ anymore.”
S: Yes.
And some deny the Holy Spirit as did some Jews in Christ’s day. They said Jesus did miracles by the power of
the devil.
L: What then do you see as the power of the
Bible?
S: I Think Luke said it in the first verses of
his Gospel. “…that you may know
the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.” Luke 1:4 (NKJV) As eye-witnesses of JESUS the disciples saw
and heard the things which He did and taught.
And Paul (Luke’s mentor) was given these things by inspiration.
L: We sing: “The Light of the World is Jesus!” Red letter editions emphasize the words Jesus
spoke. And Jesus said we would be judged
by the words He has spoken.
S: I liked the way
Rob Lacey emphasized Isaiah 9:6. “It’s a
boy! And He’s ours! He’ll grow up to carry the government on His shoulders. His
titles will include Wonderful Wise One, Awesome God, Father Who Stays, Peace
Prince. His tranquil rule will just keep on spreading. He’ll sit on David’s
throne and run a kingdom full of justice and goodness right into eternity.
God’s burning enthusiasm will see this is done.”
L: And we say Amen!
We are pleased to be able to join with you as brothers in Christ to
proclaim the everlasting Gospel!